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Gemini 4 Argon vs Qwen3.8-Max

Gemini 4 Argon is from Google and Qwen3.8-Max is from Alibaba Cloud (Qwen). On list price, both charge $2 per 1M input tokens, and Gemini 4 Argon charges 1.7x Qwen3.8-Max's output price ($10 vs $6 per 1M tokens). Gemini 4 Argon has a 1,048,576-token context window and Qwen3.8-Max 1,000,000 tokens; max output is 65,536 and 131,072 tokens per response. Gemini 4 Argon was released on October 13, 2026 and Qwen3.8-Max on August 2, 2026. Both are closed-weights models, available only through an API.

Last verified from each provider's pricing page. All sources

Google - Closed

Gemini 4 Argon
Input / 1M
$2
Output / 1M
$10
Context
1.05M

Alibaba Cloud (Qwen) - Closed

Qwen3.8-Max
Input / 1M
$2
Output / 1M
$6
Context
1M

Side-by-side specs

SpecGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8-Max
ProviderGoogleAlibaba Cloud (Qwen)
Input / 1M tokens$2$2
Output / 1M tokens$10$6
Cache read / 1M$0.10$0.17
Cache write / 1M-$2.50
Batch input / 1M$1-
Batch output / 1M$5-
Context window1,048,5761,000,000
Max output65,536131,072
Release date
WeightsClosedClosed
API model idgemini-4-argonqwen3.8-max
AI Gateway idgoogle/gemini-4-argonalibaba/qwen3.8-max
Last verified

Prices in USD per 1M tokens at each provider's standard first-party rate. A dash means the provider does not bill that item separately or no primary page states it.

What each costs in practice

The same three workloads every model page uses, worked from each model's standard list rates. Swap in your own token counts with the math on each model's page.

WorkloadGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8-Max
One agent session1M input tokens and 100K output tokens, no caching.$3.00$2.60
A chat app10,000 requests a day at 2K input and 500 output tokens each.$90.00$2,700.00 per 30-day month$70.00$2,100.00 per 30-day month
The same session at a 90% cache hit90% of the input is read from the prompt cache. The one-time cache write premium is not included.$1.29$0.953
Show the math

Gemini 4 Argon

  • One agent sessionInput: 1M x $2 = $2.00Output: 0.1M x $10 = $1.00
  • A chat appInput: 20M x $2 = $40.00Output: 5M x $10 = $50.00
  • The same session at a 90% cache hitCached input: 0.9M x $0.10 = $0.09Uncached input: 0.1M x $2 = $0.20Output: 0.1M x $10 = $1.00

Qwen3.8-Max

  • One agent sessionInput: 1M x $2 = $2.00Output: 0.1M x $6 = $0.60
  • A chat appInput: 20M x $2 = $40.00Output: 5M x $6 = $30.00
  • The same session at a 90% cache hitCached input: 0.9M x $0.17 = $0.153Uncached input: 0.1M x $2 = $0.20Output: 0.1M x $6 = $0.60

Benchmarks under the same setting

Only boards that list both models under the same run setting appear here, one row per board and setting, with each score exactly as the board shows it. Scores on different boards use different scales and are never combined.

Board and settingGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8-Max
LMArena Text (Text Arena Overall)Text Arena Overall, default leaderboard view (8,834,211 votes, 416 models)Official leaderboard - arena.ai1524±9 (Preliminary)1482±5

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Model pages

FAQ

How do Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8-Max compare on price?

On list price, both charge $2 per 1M input tokens, and Gemini 4 Argon charges 1.7x Qwen3.8-Max's output price ($10 vs $6 per 1M tokens). For one agent session of 1M input and 100K output tokens with no caching, that is $3.00 on Gemini 4 Argon and $2.60 on Qwen3.8-Max. Prices are each provider's first-party list rates, verified October 17, 2026 and October 17, 2026.

What are the context windows of Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8-Max?

Gemini 4 Argon has a 1,048,576-token context window and Qwen3.8-Max 1,000,000 tokens; max output is 65,536 and 131,072 tokens per response.

Are Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8-Max open weights?

Gemini 4 Argon is closed-weights and is called through Google's API as gemini-4-argon. Qwen3.8-Max is closed-weights and is called through Alibaba Cloud (Qwen)'s API as qwen3.8-max.

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Sources

Gemini 4 Argon verified from ai.google.dev; Qwen3.8-Max verified from alibabacloud.com. This page is as current as the older of the two: .

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